Yuchi Bill Stuck In Summer Study

I still find it hard to understand why people who claim to be Native American has done nothing but fight state recognition of all Tennessee Native Americans, Cherokee and Yuchi, if their indeed in Tennessee and not part of the Okla. and NC Cherokees or their hired guns.

Tennessee is one of the only Southern states that doesn’t have recognition of any Native Americans groups.  It’s not like the Tennessee Native Americans are the first to try for state recognition, but looks like Tennessee will be last in the nation to do so.  Being a proven 1/8th Cherokee, it does sicken me that the Okla. and NC Cherokee Nation goes into other states and tries to stop state recognition for their kinsmen.  And if their so proud of their ancestors etc., try getting the NC and Okla. Cherokee Chief’s and council to help stop the destruction of ancestral mass burial sites and save historic sites, such as when the Tellico Dam project was being planned.  The Cherokee Nation in NC wouldn’t even cross the mountain into the Little Tennessee Valley to help us “Snowballs”, who were only 1/2, 1/8th or 1/16th Cherokee take on TVA, oh yes, they did show up after the dam was built and the valley was about to be flooded.  They wouldn’t even show up when UT began bulldozing the famous Toqua Mound, where Nancy Ward saved Mrs. Bean. But, they’ll spend thousands of dollars, legally and illegally, to stop all Tennessee Native Americans from state recognition.  But, they had one thing on their side, they had the Tennessee politicians snowed, with their mouth pieces misleading the Tennessee politicians, but that’s all about to end.

This isn’t a Yuchi thing, these outside interest and their puppets in Tennessee don’t want recognition of any Native Americans in Tennessee, to include Cherokee.  But, they’ll come face to face with their ancestors someday and they won’t be able to con them.

I cannot sign off with Semper Fidelis, my head wouldn’t fit in the jar, so I couldn’t get in the USMC.  I didn’t leave my heart at Wounded Knee, but I left a lot of my body in the Central Highlands, 1968.

For God and Country
Iann MacK.

Lann,
I want to ONCE again make this point PERFECTLY CLEAR.
I WAS OPPOSED ONLY TO THE REMNANT YUCHI GETTING RECOGNITION AND ONLY BECAUSE I KNOW THEY ARE ILLEGITIMATE!!
I know nothing about your state claimant Cherokee tribes and I do not care. If they wish to seek recognition, I would not oppose it. In fact, I would hardly even notice. If they are truly decendants and can PROVE IT, they deserve it. More power to them!

But when the history and prehistory of upper east Tennessee is being grossly misrepresented, a 2 year old “tribe” of people who for all intents and purposes are not required the burden of proof, you bet I will raise up and fight it.
I know many of these so called Yuchi and it was only a few short years ago they called themselves Cherokee (but could not prove it?). Was I to sit on my hands while they gained recognition knowing full well that their claims were false?? What kind of Cherokee would that make me, Lann??? Were you FOR Yuchi recognition??
I listened to Chief Vest fib to the house S≶committee that his tribe was supported and encouraged by the Real Yuchi in Oklahoma, Federal dollars would pour into the state for his tribe, late woodland stone box burials are Yuchian??? What the??.
Guess you did not hear that?
You also forgot that Vest was asked three times on a local talk radio show if each or (any) of his members were decended from a Yuchi native ancestor and three times Vest evaded the question. Well, “duh!!“

Vest himself offered me membership in his tribe in a one time only phone conversation even tho he had never met me. Is this right?? Is this how to get tribe members, just call em’ up and invite em’ in?? I declined of course since I answer to a higher authority.
He also admitted enrolling pure white caucasian people like his chemistry professor/researcher who practices the new science of “theoretical archaeology”. How many more in his tribe are “without proof” or what you termed yourself that awful tag, “wannabes”?  Would you seriously be angry at me for opposing THAT and you call yourself a Cherokee decendant???

I am a Red Feather Warrior, Lann. I protect the integrity of Native artisans under the IACA law regionally and help guard ancient native/archaeological sites in this region. I am also a US Army veteran ,a resident taxpayer in the state of Tennessee and a voter and an OLD MAN by the way. Guess that means I work for you and your best interests, huh?
I do not work for the CNO as you suggest nor am I a hired lobbyist. I don’t even like the CNO for it’s recent attempts to remove it’s freedmen from the rolls, an act of pure greed.
I am a concerned citizen and when I see wrong being done, I do my best to stop it. More people should be just like that don’t you think?
If you must be angry at me for opposing the Remnant Yuchi claims, either you are one of them or you are just don’t have the capacity to discern right from wrong.
And by the way, I am thru trying to reason with you. You are only looking for someone to argue with and I am not going to accomodate you.
But just FYI, if the Yuchi try to get recognition again next session, I will rise up again to oppose it!! Maybe you should too!

Kim, concerning your last comments, like any person who has to lie and deceive others and gets caught up with everything is rhetoric if you don’t approve of the facts.  I asked any reader to go to the Kingsport Times comments and read what this person wrote in the Kingsport Times.

Also,the readers are free to choose to read Kim’s and Donna Smith’s comments to each other and Kim didn’t even mention liking Ms. Smiths pies, odd.

Also, Kim, I will meet you any place, with my proof of Native American blood if you will bring your proof and some fake blood card will not count, but I might need a day or two to have some of the local press there to witness the meeting and give copies of our proof to.

Also, concerning you Mike Graham, you can flat out lie about tribes who are recognized by States getting the right to open casinos, the lawyer hired by the Oklahoma Cherokees, who spoke to the Tennessee House using the same lie just helped the Tennessee Native Americans, since it was easy to prove he lied when the office of the Tennessee Attorney Generals Office has since showed this lawyer had the nerve to openly lie in open meeting with Tennessee members of the Tennessee House of Reps.  Actually several members of the House has now said they will vote yea in favor of the Native Americans.  When people have to lie in front of a state governments body and people write lies to newspapers, the Oklahoma and NC Cherokees must be paying very well for their help, if the people are indeed in Tennessee and not emailing to Tennessee newspapers, etc. from Oklahoma or NC. The whole issue against Native Americans in Tennessee has been outside interest buying people to fight for them.

And if the Cherokees of Tennessee are supported by the Cherokees out of state and it’s just the Yuchi’s, why did the reps of the Oklahoma agree not to go after the Yuchi’s, if the five Cherokee groups were dropped from the House and Senate bills?  As I mentioned there are full blooded Cherokee and half blooded Cherokee in Tennessee and they are even being stabbed in the back by greedy tribal leaders of the Oklahoma and NC Cherokee Nation.

Also, Mr. Graham, your trying to scare up taxpayers about things state recognized Native Americans don’t qualify for, but I’d like to know how many letters like this you’ve written to politicians complaining about the 8+ million out of the 12 to 15 million illegal aliens receiving welfare payments, food stamps, free health care, etc. and causing hospitals in California to have to close because they couldn’t afford to stay open treating thousands of illegals?  How many letters have your written complaining about ACORN getting $5.2 million dollars while under investigation for voters fraud, what about the millions of dollars just approved to bring thousands of Hammas Muslim extremist to the U.S., why do you have to lie about casinos, when you know only Federal recognized tribes can do it and must be on a reservation, Tennessee does not have a Federal Reservations.

Mr. Graham didn’t your lies and slander and having others send letters that you you drafted get you in a wee bit of trouble once before?  Since your favorite word when name calling is “LEECH” and all these letters that were drafted by the same person, had “LEECH” used the same way in over 20 letters.

To any citizens reading these comments, keep an open mind, call your State Reps and Senators for what was presented to them, who said them, etc.  Also, email or call your U.S.Senator and/or member of Congress and ask them about the requirements about casinos, etc., ask if Tennessee has any Indian reservations, etc.

I would rather see the public readers call State and/or Federal government sources, because people working for out of state interest, just won’t be honest and make wise cracks about Ms. Smith apple pies, or flat out lie about casinos to scare people.  I for one have seen what gambling has done to people and their families in my field of work.  I will have to ask Mr. Graham one more thing, when do you plan to contacting state politicians about closing down Churches, veterans organizations, etc. about all the illegal raffles, bingo, etc. going on? 

To all readers don’t anyones word for whats on this sites, I just that you check out the official sources that are on official records and forget those who have to make wise cracks about pies and who chooses to call everyone he dislikes leeches.

And Mike and Kim, I’m sure your State, Federal politicians, law books, public acts on record, laws of the BIA, records of the U.S. Senate and Congress, etc. are at your access like it is to all American citizens.

For God and America.

After following this story on Native American recognition, I am thoroughly convinced through my own research that this is a very dangerous case under consideration.  I will tell you up front that am politically connected.  Being so, I have had the opportunity to gain insight as to the repercussions of such a bill.  Some of the things to consider are that some people, not all, are just plain lazy and are leeches looking to attach themselves to anything that has the blood to feed them, so to speak.  This bill has that blood.  It would allow almost free passage to these leeches to jump on board.  This legislation does not demand the proof of tribal legitimacy.  Just the very idea that our politicians are considering passage of such a bill is reprehensible.  I say that we hold our elected officials to be the good stewards of our money that they were elected to be. That, my fellow tax payers is just another burden on our teetering state and country that we cannot bear.  Another thing to think about is some of the benefits that come from our government is land grants, medical benefits, gambling ie; casinos, bingo, etc.  Do you really want that?  Fellow Americans, this is one of the original bailouts before they were labeled bailouts and this one we cannot afford.  As for lann’s posting, and to quote you:
“I am 1/8th Cherokee and yes I can prove it Ms. Shaffer and makes me sick that Native Americans are the only U.S. citizens that have to be recognized by a state and/or the Federal government, to be a people yet illegal aliens, Asians, Blacks, Middle Eastern, etc. don’t have to be voted on by a government.“ 
I wonder after reading your irate posting if that 1/8th is the “leech ticket” that you are looking for. 
Mike Graham

Concerning Kim Shaffer’s comments related to the article, “Yuchi Bill Stuck In Summer Study”.

Kim Shaffer claims to be a Native American, a citizen and taxpayer of this state and her opposition was only against the Yuchi tribe, not the Cherokee groups in Tennessee.  This is untrue, she has always been against any Native Americans in Tennessee being recognized.  She also failed to mention the Cherokee Nations in Oklahoma and North Carolina has always been against any Native American groups being recognized in Tennessee.  They have spent thousands of dollars with lobbiest in Nashville.  In fact during this session, a member of the House from Morristown, TN said he had planned to vote against the bill to recognize Native Americans in Tennessee until he heard the representive of the Oklahoma Cherokee Nation get up in front of the House of Representives and bold face lie to them, so they’d vote no.

The issue was the Oklahoma Cherokees didn’t want the five Cherokee groups in Tennessee recognized and wouldn’t oppose the Yuchi Nation if they’d drop the Cherokees from the bill, but the Yuchi Chief refused not to fight for the Tennessee Cherokees also.

She says she only opposed the Yuchi tribe because of no proof of their Yuchi blood.  But, she said she didn’t oppose the five Cherokee groups, she didn’t mention that many of them have no proof of Cherokee blood, if her issue is proof, why support the other five groups if many of them are not of Native American blood.

Ms. Shaffer and her friend a Ms. Smith both claim to be Native Americans and live in Tennessee, yet they don’t want any Native Americans in Tennessee recognized, including themselves. And anyone who opposes her is a Indian wannabe in her mind. 

I am 1/8th Cherokee and yes I can prove it Ms. Shaffer and makes me sick that Native Americans are the only U.S. citizens that have to be recognized by a state and/or the Federal government, to be a people yet illegal aliens, Asians, Blacks, Middle Eastern, etc. don’t have to be voted on by a government. 

Sometimes I wonder if Ms. Shaffer or Ms. Smith are actually in Oklahoma or have close ties to the Oklahoma Cherokee Nation.

Also, Ms. Shaffer fails to mention is, one can be 100% blood Native American from Tennessee and by Federal law they cannot make crafts and sell them as a Native American, since Tennessee doesn’t recognize Native Americans as a people. That’s why the Oklahoma and North Carolina Cherokees spends thousands of dollars fighting it.

Tennessee is rich in Native American history and if any East Tennessean had ancestors who were early traders, trappers or settlers in Tennessee chances are they have a Native American ancestor, there was a lot of interracial marriage during the 1700’s and early 1800’s. And if many so called full bloods in Cherokee, NC and on the Cherokee reservation in Oklahoma, researchers said they’d be amazed how many would have Western European DNA.  Due to marriages between settlers and Indians.  And if Ms. Shaffer knew the laws of the old Cherokee Nation, before the dollar became the 20th and 21st century law, if a person had one drop of Cherokee blood, they were members of the tribe or if a White married a member of the tribe, the White person became a full member of the tribe.

And thanks to modern science there’s at least two ways to prove if a person had Native American ancestors, they don’t need Ms. Shaffer or Ms. Smith’s approval.

And as far as Ms. Shaffer mentioning third party cussings and silent phone calls, I doubt if there’s 1 or 2 people in the entire area who even knows about her project to keep Tennessee Native Americans a non people,if she’s indeed in Tennessee.

But, don’t whine that your cause is only against the Yuchi’s and anti wannabe Indians knowing darn well some of the five Cherokee groups allow anyone to join, just on their word.

That makes you a bit of a bigot, calling only the Yuchi group fakes, but that the Cherokee groups don’t have any and approve of their status.  What’s the going rate by the Oklahoma Cherokee paid lobby?