Where Does Biden Really Stand On Coal?

Where Does Biden Really Stand On Coal?

By Earl Neikirk/Bristol Herald Courier

Senator Joe Biden speaks to the crowd at the UMWA Fish Fry in Castlewood, Va., in a recent appearance there.

 

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ABINGDON, Va. – Three days before he spoke in Castlewood, Va., on Saturday about his coal-mining background and pledged to invest $4 billion in clean-coal technology, Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden stated his opposition to coal in another campaign speech in Ohio.

“We’re not supporting clean coal,” Biden said in response to a question he was asked in Maumee, Ohio, last week.

“No coal plants here in America. Build them, if they’re going to build them, over there [in China]. Make them clean, because they’re killing you.”

A video from the event – and political commentary on Biden’s apparent campaign flip-flop – was widely circulated on the Internet on Tuesday.

“I can’t talk on that,” said Kevin Griffis, Virginia spokesman for the Obama-Biden campaign, when asked about Biden’s statements in Ohio. “I can just point you to the statement and their record. From what they have voted on and what they have supported, I think they’re clear on making sure coal is part of our energy future.”

According to a statement released by the Obama-Biden campaign, both candidates support clean coal technology.

“Senator Biden’s point is that China is building coal plants with outdated technology every day, and the United States needs to lead by developing clean coal technologies,” according to the statement.

“The Obama-Biden comprehensive energy plan will invest $150 billion over 10 years in clean energy technologies, including incentives to accelerate private sector investment in commercial scale zero-carbon coal facilities,” it states.

Delegate Terry Kilgore, R-Gate City, said Biden’s statement in Ohio is “alarming.”

“It’s just sort of irritating that someone will come here [to Southwest Virginia] and espouse certain beliefs and then go to other parts of the country and say otherwise,” Kilgore said. “I know Congressman Boucher and others seem to think Obama and Biden are going to be good for coal, but when they go to other parts of the country and say things like that, it catches you off guard, it’s alarming to us, those of us who represent the coal area.”

Kilgore said clean coal technology is an essential part of the strategy that’s needed – along with development of renewable energy resources and domestic oil production – for energy independence and job creation nationwide.

Phil Smith, spokesman for the United Mine Workers of America, said the organization “completely supports Sen. Obama for a lot of reasons, one of which is his commitment to coal and his commitment to making coal part of America’s long-term energy future, notwithstanding what Sen. Biden was seen saying last week.”

Smith said Obama is far more supportive of coal than McCain.

Biden spoke in Castlewood on Saturday at the UMWA’s annual fish fry.

McCain’s campaign, meanwhile, announced the launch on Tuesday of a Coalition to Protect Coal Jobs, which is “a nationwide group including members of Congress, state government and other influential leaders [that] will spread the message about the importance of clean coal technology and the advantages of tapping the country’s vast coal reserves,” according to a news release.

Barbara Altizer, spokeswoman for the Eastern Coal Council, did not endorse either candidate in an interview on Saturday.

Another issue that has generated questions from Biden’s speech in Castlewood, was his reference to himself as a “hard-coal miner” from Scranton, Pa. That was not a literal statement, according to Griffis, the Virginia campaign spokesman.

“He definitely did not say that he was a coal miner,” Griffis said. “I think what he was trying to say is the folks in Scranton, the people where he grew up … have dealt with the same sort of issues that the folks in Southwest Virginia have to deal with.”

Parallels also have been drawn between the “hard-coal miner” comment and a 1988 Biden political speech about his coal-mining forebears that resembled a speech by British Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock.

According to a Nov. 20, 1997, article in Slate Magazine that looked at embellished autobiographies of public figures across the political spectrum, Biden’s standard stump speech during the 1988 campaign started out quoting Kinnock.

“Pretty soon, though, Kinnock had dropped out of the speech and it was Biden himself whose ancestors worked in the coal mines … and would come up after 12 hours and play football for four hours,” according to the article.

“Biden grew up in a white-collar suburb, his father was a car salesman, one grandfather was a state senator, and the only Biden on record as having worked near a mine was a mining engineer,” the article states.

According to the Delaware senator’s Web site, which stresses that he grew up in Delaware, his family moved from Scranton when he was 10 years old.

Griffis acknowledged the 20-year-old plagiarism question, but said of the Castlewood comments, “This situation isn’t analogous in any way.”

Of the borrowed 1988 speech, “It didn’t come up in his primary at all, and I don’t think anybody’s talked about it in 20 years.”

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Flag Comment Posted by jeannie65 on September 24, 2008 at 1:38 pm

gmaynard must be working in Boucher office. Poor little RICK and the miners keep electing him.
jeannie

Flag Comment Posted by tmullins on September 24, 2008 at 12:55 pm

Coal is not at risk folks, what is at risk is 350 Million Year Old Appalachian Mountains to Mountain Top Removal and the impact on our land and water.  Greed is making some mega profit corporation rich at the expense of the people here in Wise County.

http://www.wisecountyissues.com

Flag Comment Posted by gmaynard on September 24, 2008 at 11:56 am

Why is the media so up in arms about an off-the-cuff comment Biden made while they’re not reporting anything about McCain’s long-term and sustained attack on coal jobs?

McCain is the one with an anti-coal agenda and his track record proves it.
John McCain has been on the attack against the coal industry for years, starting with legislation he proposed in 2003–Senate Bill 139, the Climate Stewardship Act of 2003–that would have just about wiped out the coal industry in Appalachia.

The U.S. Energy Information Administration released an analysis of S. 139 in May, 2004, which said the reductions in coal production under the McCain legislation was estimated to be 78 percent by 2025. Since it takes coal miners to produce coal, that would mean a drastic reduction in employment, most of which would have fallen heavily on more labor-intensive mines like we have in Appalachia.

The kicker of McCain’s energy plan is to build 45 new nuclear plants across America by 2025, the first wave of 100 new nuclear plants he foresees. The negative impact on coal production and jobs from these plants will be extremely significant. And let’s face it–no matter what happens with respect to climate change over the next 50 to 100 years, the waste generated by a nuclear plant tomorrow will still be deadly to all life 10,000 years from now.

With the coming development of clean coal technologies like carbon capture and storage (CCS), America is on the brink of being able to use coal to generate energy without contributing any more greenhouse gases to the environment. Sen. McCain pays lip service to CCS, but the record shows that coal has a very limited future in John McCain’s vision of America. And that’s a direct threat to tens of thousands of coal mining families.

Sen. Barack Obama, on the other hand, is from a coal state and clearly understands the long-term role coal can play in our nation’s energy future. He has pledged to fund development of CCS technology so that it can be deployed as soon as possible. He has said that America is the “Saudi Arabia of coal” and that we ought to be working as hard as we can to figure out how to use it for decades to come.

So the choice for coal miners, their families, their neighbors and everyone living in the coalfield communities throughout Appalachia. Barack Obama is for the long-term future of your job and John McCain is not. Keep that in mind when you vote on Nov. 4.

Flag Comment Posted by jeannie65 on September 24, 2008 at 11:19 am

What a question do we not believe Biden’s own words. They are against coal and the UMWA worker would vote for a monkey if it claimed it was a Democrat.They vote for a man, Boucher that has done nothing for this District. He claims responsibility for every business that comes near here but he had nothing to do with anything.
Now we have a man Obama running for this very important office and we know nothing about him. Is he Muslim? Where was he born? Who was his real Daddy? Why has he lied about how his parents met and where is his Mommy? We are stupid just because he talks a good talk we are not really listening. 20 years with REV. WRIGHT? BUT WE ARE DEMOCRATS AND THATS OUR EXCUSE. IN HIS OWN BOOK HE CHOOSES THE BLACK RACE OVER WHITE.

JEANNIE

Flag Comment Posted by tmullins on September 24, 2008 at 11:14 am

Now I am really confused.

He says they need to clean up their coal, which is actually coal from Wise County, Virginia’s decapitated 350 Million Year Old Appalachian Mountains.  We realize living here in The Coalfields that coal will always be a part of our life but folks there’s a better way.  Old abandoned strip mines are polluting our watersheds, mountain top removal is destroying our streams not to mention what else it does to our land and landscape. 

25% of Wise County is gone for at least 10,000 years and there are requests for permits for around 30 or so percent more of Wise County. 

The politicians, Republican and Democrat are in the pocket of the greedy lobbyists at our expense.  Why does Pound and Appalachia look like a third world community ?  Where is the prosperity we always here is coming, yet buildings are collapsing and a hazard to our communities, our schools are so out dated, they can’t power the new technology our kids deserve, but seems we can power factories in china so American jobs can be shipped over seas where they are building new factories and coal fired power plants to pollute the globe with C02, cheap toxic toys and other products which are killing our kids, pets and us. 

Rick Boucher touts tourism, but who wants to come see a toxic waste dump ?

It’s ironic that Dominion is helping rebuild the High Knob tower, from there you will really be able to see the destruction and damage mountain top removal has done to Wise County.

I hope there will be follow up on this story,

( click link to see what mountain top removal looks like and a glimpse of what is called coal prosperity in Wise County, Virginia, The Safest Place on Earth )  www.wisecountyissues.com

Flag Comment Posted by rosesautro on September 24, 2008 at 10:59 am

WILL THE REAL OBAMA -BIDEN TEAM PLEASE STAND UP!!!
MY FATHER WAS A UMWA MEMBER FOR 25YEARS AND HE STOOD MY AND WATCHED HIS UNION DUES GO TO DEMS. FOR COAL HERE
AGAINST COAL IN OHIO
AGAINST GUMS IN GOOD OL SAN FRANSICO
HOW MUCH CAN OUR REGION STAND TO LISTEN TO THESE SOCIALISTS’S
OR BY THE WAY BARRICK SAYS” HE IS BLACK”

Flag Comment Posted by beamer on September 24, 2008 at 6:59 am

Stand on what you belive and don’t be a fence rider(Biden)...

Flag Comment Posted by carl on September 24, 2008 at 6:57 am

Good reporting! That’s what we want and Ms McCown delivers.

I love the “What he meant to say” and “his point is”...
Pathological Joe needs to find out who he really is!

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