David Crockett Students Are Upset Over Confederate Flag Issue

David Crockett Students Are Upset Over Confederate Flag Issue

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Students and parents at one Tri-Cities school don’t agree with a decision by the school to not allow any t-shirts, flags or other items with the rebel flag symbol on it. SOUND OFF: Is this infringing on students’ freedom of speech? Were the flags being used to pay tribute or intimidate fellow students?

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Controversy is swirling at one high school in the Tri-Cities. Several viewers contacted News Channel 11 asking why the rebel flag had been from David Crockett High School.
“They are trying to make them take the stickers off their cars and everything,“
said Devon Lewis, student.
Parents also have issue with the new rule.
“I believe that people should be able to fly the flags they like to fly without everybody getting their feelings hurt,“ said Shawn Berry, parent.
Students said they were told by the school on Wednesday that the rebel flag or t-shirts and other items with the rebel flag on it will not be allowed at the school. Lewis said that students were bringing the rebel flag to school in honor of fellow student Michael Payne who recently died after an ATV accident.
Lewis also told us that several fights broke out at the school between white and Hispanic students, and then the announcement was made to not allow the rebel flag.
“I don’t believe it’s a racial issue at all, it’s just a tribute to Michael,“ Lewis said.
Officials with Washington County Schools did acknowledge Crockett’s principal is not allowing the rebel flag symbol at school.
 

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Flag Comment Posted by ccsunflower on November 16, 2008 at 7:36 pm

I still maintain that the civil war essentially amounted to the right to own slaves. Every issue (ie government, economy, taxes on southern grown goods by industries of the north—Karl Marx is kind of an idiot by the way) had strong, dramatic undercurrents of slave ownership. To say that it was solely about states rights is like saying the war in Iraq is about weapons of mass destruction. As far as Lincoln goes, it is no misconception that he was a weak leader who normally succumbed to the pressure of his cabinet. I am well aware that Lincoln was no advocate of civil rights, and that aforementioned conditions with his administration are actually the reason Emancipation Proclamation came to be.

Tennessee was the last to secede. Also, it is historic fact that East Tennessee were union sympathizers; The area we call home, barely south of the mason Dixon, planned several times to secede and join the Union. People in our region likely soldiers of the union… we couldn’t even grow cotton here, cotton can’t grow in the mountains. Actually, my spouse’s great-great grandparents (a minister & his wife who preached against war and slavery, lived near Roan Mtn.), were killed by confederate soldiers for being outspoken supporters of the union.

At inner city schools, bandanas are strictly prohibited. Bandanas themselves are not bad, but they have bad associations. My point is that pride is usually one-sided. Why not be considerate of those on the other side? I have lived in this area for pretty much my entire life and I’ve seen too many people trying to pass hate along as heritage. Face it, it’s 2008 and racism runs rampantly through these hills. If it’s causing turmoil among students, the sensible thing to do is get rid of it.

Flag Comment Posted by Lady Val on November 16, 2008 at 2:42 pm

It seems that this school (and a lot of others) should be more concerned with the ignorance of its students (and some other commentators as well) than with their wardrobe.

First, the South committed no treason in seceding; they were guaranteed that right under the Constitution. But even if one believes that there can be a legitimate difference of opinion regarding the constitutional right of secession, there can be NO doubt that the Constitution did not give the federal government or any state working in concert with that government the right to wage war on any other state in the Union. The treason against the Republic as it was founded was, it would seem, on the part of the North, not the South.

Second, Abraham Lincoln cared NOTHING about slavery and, in fact, to keep the South in the Union (Southern states paid 70% of the taxes that supported Northern industries and the federal government), Lincoln offered the Corwin Amendment to the Constitution WHICH WOULD HAVE GUARANTEED SLAVERY IN PERPETUITY. So let’s get rid of the myth that Lincoln cared anything about blacks; he didn’t. His own writings and quotes prove that.

Third, the War of Secession (it wasn’t a “Civil War”) was fought for many reasons, of which slavery was only one - and not the most important one. In fact, Karl Marx (who greatly admired Lincoln and many of whose advocates fought for the Union) stated that the American “civil war” was a “tax war”.

Finally, the guarantees of the Constitution as contained in the Bill of Rights pertain to everyone - including teenagers. Under the First Amendment, they have the right to freedom of speech and expression although, obviously, there are certain social limitations as has been the case throughout time. Unfortunately, under the “New Constitution of Political Correctness”, that right may be unjustly abrogated by labeling as “hate”, certain types of speech and expression. Of course, that definition is always pointedly limited to such things as the Confederate battle flag. Other flags such as the Mexican flag or flags denoting various minority power groups are all considered acceptable and we see tee-shirts with the image of Communist terrorist Che Guevera welcomed in our schools while a flag under which noble Americans fought and died is banned. So it would seem that efforts to “prevent offense” are directed to only one group.

Focus on problems such as the economy? Frankly, by the time the PC censors get finished, the economy will be the least of our worries.

Flag Comment Posted by ole63 on November 16, 2008 at 8:06 am

I am part Cherokee, and proud of it! I am also pure American, the Confederate Flag is a part of our history, here in the South, it is part of us. Why don’t everyone just leave it ALONE? I am more concerned with our children using drugs, and alcohol, and the way they are dressing to go to school. We have a lot going on in the world today, and this wanting to get rid of a flag maybe should be lower on the list of worries.

Flag Comment Posted by ChrisKpt on November 15, 2008 at 10:53 pm

The Confederate battle flag…a sign of treason.  If you want to see the ultimate symbol of treason, check out any flagpole in the United States…..what do you think our forefathers were doing to England?  Had they lost the Revolutionary War, they’d have all been lined up and shot for crimes against the crown.  The Confederate Battle flag has been flown in battle by various units in every war since the Civil War.  For those that say President Bush abused his authority, read up on ole “Honest Abe” and you’ll be surprised how he wielded his Presidential powers against the citizens of the USA and CSA…..good lord, old Abe even had a few Indians killed.

Flag Comment Posted by evaningstar on November 15, 2008 at 5:32 pm

Just because teenagers are younger doesn’t mean they don’t have a mind of their own and shouldn’t be able to express their thoughts and individuality. I get so tired of people acting like young people don’t have feelings or personal individual thoughts or a brain in their head. These are young adults not two year olds.

Flag Comment Posted by sickntired on November 15, 2008 at 1:35 pm

I would like to start by saying that I am very proud to be an American! But I have to admit that I am not proud of some thing in American history. We as a country have done a lot of really bad things to each other and others in the name of freedom and independence. The Native American Indian tribes were here before our ancestors stepped foot on this great country but what happened to them? After years of fighting and war the surviving Indians were rounded up and put on reservations, forced to live in a way that is totally opposite from their heritage. In our ancestors greed for land they destroyed the way of life for the people who were truly American from birth. As a nation that was conceived and born on the desire and promise of individual rights, we did not seem to care that we took these rights from others in the process. If the same thing were to happen today, some other country invaded the USA with the intent to take control of the land, government and religion how many would fight for their rights then? Everyone! Well, just in case you may not have noticed, that is not too far off base as immigrants seem to have a whole lot more rights than citizens do. The police can not ask for immigrants for Id or green cards as it could violate these immigrants 5th Amendment right not to incriminate their self if they were here illegally but they can pull an American over at any time for any reason. Try telling them you will not show your Id to keep from incriminating yourself! It is the same thing if they need medical treatment, the hospital staff can not ask for Id, green cards or even addresses to send the bill just in case they are here illegally but they must be treated. This whole controversy boils down to individual rights, rights which are protected by the Constitution of the United States of America but which we are losing one by one, slowly and for the most part unprotested. Everyone has the right to live their life in such a manner as they chose whether it offends anyone else or not. I personally am offended by many things on a daily basis but just because it offends me don’t give me the right to judge others in the eyes of the law or the Lord! I am greatly offended by sagging pants with underwear showing. I would much rather see a person with a Rebel flag on their shirt than someone’s underwear or worse. I am offended by Hispanics that get behind me in the grocery store and talk in a language that I can not understand and laugh. I am offended by drug dealers who profit on the addiction and destruction of individuals and families. I am offended by the active prostitution trade taking place in downtown Johnson City. I am offended that prayer has been taken out of school and even the Pledge of Allegiance and the dollar bill has came under fire for having God included, taking away my right to freedom of religion. I am offended that the USA government is bailing out all these big companies and ignoring the average American. I am offended by global warming and that no one seems to care. I could go on and on with what offends me but what offends me most is ignorance ,hate, greed and prejudice My point here is that there are much worse things happening in our communities, county ,state and country. If everybody cared this much about the things that really matter we might just be able to make a difference!

Flag Comment Posted by Robin on November 15, 2008 at 12:54 pm

I think we send our kids to school to learn, not to be making statements with flags, stickers, clothing, ect..
I think if they are going far enough to take prayer out of school and now this thing with the confederate flag, they need to also ban kids from wearing these hellish shirts with pictures of Manson, Osborne, and ect. I also think that kids shouldn’t be allowed to wear the pants that hang down past their butts either. Why take away flags, prayers and things like that when there are many other things that should be taken care of first, MORE IMPORTANT things? This may sound crazy but it fits into the subject and needs to be thought about by our school boards.

Flag Comment Posted by Freedomman on November 15, 2008 at 9:43 am

History is history and many people of this region had ancestors who proudly served under the Confederate Battle Flag (rebel flag).  While ancestors of slaves or others might take offence at this piece of history, they have the right to honor their ancestors without being denigraded, as do we who honor ours.  This flag has been wrongfully used to promote personal agendas, and sadly, when this occurs, detracts from the true historical significance of its character.  My great grandfather, a Confederate soldier, fought to preserve the rights of his state and a Constitution which was violated by using slavery as a catalyst to foment an unnecessary war.  Negro slavery was abolished in approximately eighteen European nations prior to the War for Southern Independence, and done without warfare.  “Someone” wanted an American war for the same reasons we have wars to this very day…power and wealth; via Rothschild banking interests.  The undoing of the Constitution by imposition of martial law by President Lincoln set a dangerous precedent…an action soon to be repeated due to the coming social unrest in America caused by the banking interests who are destroying the American people, stealthily and openly, eating out their substance in order to build their one world economic system.  More details can be found in two excellent books:  ‘The Real Lincoln’ by Thomas J. DiLorenzo and ‘The Day Dixie Died’ by Thomas and Debra Goodrich

Flag Comment Posted by tennessee mam on November 15, 2008 at 1:25 am

I hope of you will go back and read these,this is reidiculous,I have had to address one Racial statement this week and I am about fed up with this stuff,and for goodness sake why bring in a person who has left this earth,I could for one use alot of issues,but will not,just remember we are all AMERICANS,and our hertiage did come from other COUNTRIES unless you are a true AMERICAN INDIAN,so put your flags in your private property like I do and wake up and smell the coffee,lets worry more about our ECONOMY, or do we know what that is????

Flag Comment Posted by ccsunflower on November 14, 2008 at 11:52 pm

As a matter of fact, I am familiar with Lincoln’s House Divided Speech.  Lincoln was not all that popular in the south as he was perceived as anti-slavery and that’s why some southern states ( with the largest plantations, mind you) seceded. States wanted to operate independently from the federal government, especially when it came to declaring an unclaimed territory free-soil or slave state. Popular Sovereignty failed when Missouri tried to force Kansas into becoming a slave territory. And Cotton played a considerable role in rising tensions between the union and confederates. The southern economy was a crop economy. The economic wellness of the south depended on crops, therefore it depended on cheap labor (aka slave plantations). Plantation owners of the south feared a huge loss if slavery was abolished or even gradually faded out. These were the main issues. Maybe what I said was an overgeneralization of the causes of the civil war but I’m still entirely correct in saying slavery was directly correlated with government and economic matters. Tariffs were pretty much a side note.

Sonofthesouth, your overconfidence and presumptiveness are embarrassing.

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