Fleenor: “We Don’t Want These People In Jail. We Want Payment”

Fleenor: “We Don’t Want These People In Jail. We Want Payment”

Virginia Department of Social Services

Virginia Department of Social Services’ Child Support Most Wanted poster, which can be found on the internet at; http://www.dss.virginia.gov/family/dcse/2008_most_wanted/index.html

Two of those accused of being among Virginia’s “Most Wanted” child-support evaders call Washington County home. SOUND OFF: What’s the best way to get deadbeat parents to pay child support?

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Child support tip lines
Virginia Division of Child Support Enforcement: 800-257-9986
Sullivan County, Tenn., Department of Human Services Child Support Office: 423-279-3295

ABINGDON, Va. – Two of those accused of being among Virginia’s “Most Wanted” child-support evaders call Washington County home.

But it’s hard to be certain exactly where home usually is for Rodney Farrell Stanley, 57, and Bobby Joe Cannon Jr., 35.

The local sheriff notes that people sought for past-due payments like Stanley and Cannon – Washington County Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court documents indicate they owe a combined $60,807 – sometimes change addresses several times a year.

“They’re mobile,” Washington County Sheriff Fred Newman said of child-support evaders in general. “They’ll stay at one place for a little while and when support services get hot on their tails, they’ll relocate.”

The bottom line, Newman said, is that time, patience and a lot of luck is needed to track someone running from unpaid child support.

In Southwest Virginia, that luck is needed to collect unpaid and overdue child support valued at nearly $77 million.

Virginia Child Support Enforcement Division statistics show that one in every 11 Virginia children has a parent who refuses to consistently pay. In Tennessee, the state Department of Human Services statistics show that number is one in every 12 children.

In Sullivan County, Tenn., roughly $885,000 worth of child support is due each month, notes the Tennessee Department of Human Services. Of that amount, $522,000, or about 59 percent, is paid sporadically or not at all, according to department estimates. (Similar monthly numbers were not available for Virginia counties.)

“It’s very frustrating when those parents don’t pay because you know there’s a kid suffering,” said Michelle Mowery Johnson, spokeswoman for the Tennessee human services department.

In Virginia, Stanley owes $33,805 for support of a girl, and Cannon owes $27,066 to a boy and a girl, according to state child support enforcement records.

Both men landed on Virginia’s updated list of the top nine offenders in October. The list is as part of a program designed to generate tips on their whereabouts so they can be subpoenaed for court. Being among the top nine doesn’t necessarily mean they are wanted for arrest, only that they have outstanding debts that surpass the child-support norm. However, authorities have issued a warrant for Cannon’s arrest because of his failure to appear in court when ordered.

To make the most-wanted list, noncustodial parents must owe at least $8,000, have missed payments for six straight months, and their case must be in the courts.

Johnson said Tennessee stopped producing most-wanted lists several years ago. With few tips generated, she said, such posters became little more than a tool “to shame [evaders] into paying.”

National fathers and men’s rights columnist Glenn Sacks also questions the effectiveness of the lists. In a telephone interview, Sacks said the lists only hound into hiding many noncustodial parents who want to pay, but are down on their financial luck.

“What happens is they fall behind, they can’t get a modification [reduced payment plan] ... and they get an obligation that they can never pay off,” Sacks said.

Michael McCormick, executive director of the American Coalition for Fathers and Children, said that in those cases, divorced dads are at a huge disadvantage.

“If you’re a husband and you lose your job, nothing happens,” McCormick said. “But if you’re a noncustodial father and you lose your job, the next thing you know you have a real likelihood of being put in prison.”

Eric Fleenor, the acting district manager of the child support division in Abingdon, said arresting fathers is not the objective.

“We don’t want these people in jail. We want payment,” he said.

In the shadows

State child support departments usually find updated addresses by culling through traffic tickets, tax forms and other official records. States also subpoena cell phone records to find parents, or even revoke driver’s licenses for nonpayment. The Tennessee Department of Human Services reports yanking more than 7,000 licenses last year.

Tips generated by Virginia’s recently released list have resulted in authorities netting one alleged evader – a mother living in the state’s Shenandoah Valley region. Wendy Marie Gentry, 34, of Hinton, is listed by the state’s child support services as owing $23,304 to two boys. She is being held in the Rockingham County Jail on a charge of missing a bond payment on a July 2007 arrest. State child support records show that her arrest was on a charge of failing to appear for a child support hearing.

Stanley, pictured on Virginia’s wanted poster with gray hair and deep laugh lines, is listed as a painting contractor with an Abingdon address. His former wife, Sheri Alexander, also of Abingdon, is a retired sales clerk who said she now lives on monthly disability checks due to arthritis and an ailing back.

Alexander believes Stanley might live somewhere other than the address listed on the state’s roster. A Bristol Herald Courier investigation reveals that her hunch might be correct.

Court records have traced Stanley to Georgia and Florida. But Alexander thinks he might have moved into Tennessee, either to Kingsport or Johnson City. She bases her hunch on cell phone records and reported sightings of Stanley motoring through the region in a white pickup truck.

In her opinion, he has become adept at earning an under-the-table living and hiding in the shadows.

“He knows the system very well,” Alexander said.

Their marriage ended 10 years ago, when their daughter, Carly, was 3 years old. Since then, Carly has learned to play the saxophone and has joined her middle school concert band. Her saxophone prowess has earned her a spot with the nearby high school marching band.

“I think she’s very frustrated with the fact that we have a very hard time getting by,” Alexander said.

Stanley still pops up in their lives through sporadic telephone calls and even the occasional child-support check. He paid $700 last year, and mailed a check for $350 earlier this year, according to records in Washington County Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court.

The staggered payments fall short of the court’s orders that Stanley send monthly payments, of about $195.

Alexander believes Stanley intends to pay just enough to appease local courts and law enforcement.

“His terminology to me was, as long as you pay a little bit every now and then, they’re not going to put you in jail,” she said.

Patterns

Wendy Marie Gentry bucks the child support stereotype in more ways than gender. She also falls into the minority circle that owes the majority of the past-due payments.

More than $105 billion worth of past-due payments has accrued since the national child support program began in 1975, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services estimates.

Most noncustodial parents behind on payments owe roughly $5,000, national estimates show. However, they account only for about 6 percent of the total past-due debt.

More than 90 percent of the country’s unpaid child support is owed by a small number of noncustodial parents. Their individual debts often average around $30,000. Based on the amount of their alleged debt, Stanley and Cannon appear to fit that profile. So does Wendy Marie Gentry.

Kenneth Gentry, of Elkton, Va., rarely thought about his unusual parental predicament: He is the custodial father of two boys, and it’s their biological mother who is accused of stiffing child support obligations.

“When I got custody of my boys, I knew it was unusual for a father to get custody,” he said by telephone.

Rockingham County Sheriff’s deputies arrested Wendy Gentry on Oct. 23, slightly more than a week after the Virginia Child Support Enforcement Division pictured her on the wanted list. Tips on her location began trickling in the next day, according to a department news statement.

Since she vanished from their lives, sons, Casey, now 13, and Zack, now 11, have taken up motorbike racing and their father has remarrried.

Kenneth Gentry’s thoughts turn to his ex-wife so seldom that he can’t remember the year of their divorce.

There was a time, however, when her child support payments would have been welcomed. She was expected to pay $296 a month.

“At first, it would have been nice for child care, but through the years I’ve made a life for us,” Gentry said. “To be honest, [receiving child support] doesn’t matter much to me.”

Not every pattern shared by Gentry, Stanley and Cannon point to a deadbeat parent bent on beating the system, noted Sacks, the columnist and spokesman for men’s rights.

Wanted lists “repeatedly” feature noncustodial parents with low-paying jobs. Virginia’s most recent list includes factory workers, a taxi cab driver, a carnival worker and a car salesman, all people who Sacks suggests might never be able earn enough income to pay their familial debts.

“When times are good, you’re working. When times are not, you’re not working,” he said.

Low wages also are a sign of a noncustodial parent who is unable to hire a lawyer savvy enough to convince a judge that dwindling wages should equal lower monthly payments, Sacks said.

“It’s too hard to get downward modification in the child support system,” he said. “With all the hysteria over deadbeat dads, the judges think the guy’s lying or at fault.”

Dead ends

Cannon, who owes $27, 066 for a boy and a girl who are now in college, hasn’t paid child support since July 2003, Washington County Juvenile Court records show. The records also include his arrest warrant on a contempt-of-court charge related to a child support hearing in August 2004.

He is pictured on Virginia’s Most Wanted poster flashing a youthful smile and wearing a tuxedo. The photo looks to be from a high school yearbook.

His ex-wife is a Smyth County, Va., factory worker who requested that her name not be used. She divorced Cannon 10 years ago, and doubts he will ever pay his share of child care. He’s expected to pay $365 a month, she said. And she admits it would help if a check were to arrive in the mail.

“He should have to pay,” she said. “My kids still have a lot of college to go and I’d like to see that through.”

Court records show that Cannon has lived at multiple addresses in Washington County over the years. State child support records give a Meadowview address, but the Herald Courier could not find anyone in that neighborhood who recognized his photo or name.

Washington County General District Court records show that police in Damascus cited him in January on a misdemeanor charge of marijuana possession. He was found guilty in absentia months later, court records show, but has not paid his $250 fine.

On the citation, Cannon cites his home address as Astro Drive in Abingdon. Washington County Emergency Services, which keeps all addresses for 911 calls, does not have an Astro Drive on its maps. Abingdon does have an Astor Drive, and there is a house number similar to the one listed by Cannon. He does not live there, however, the occupants said.

Also leading to a dead end was the Herald Courier’s search for Stanley. He does not live at the Abingdon mobile home park noted in state child support records. Living there instead was a man who looked similar to Stanley’s photograph, sharing the same deep laugh lines. When showed a picture of Stanley, the man simply nodded his head and said: “That’s not me.”

He then produced his own child support papers, which listed a name other than Stanley and a child of a different name.

Stanley’s mother, reached at her Abingdon home, said she rarely talks to her son and, because she was “not under oath,” did not have to share his telephone number and “possible” address.

She promised to pass on the newspaper’s interview request if she happened to hear from him.

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Flag Comment Posted by nuff said on November 17, 2008 at 11:25 am

To evaningstar—cudos, sounds like you have done a great job to better yourself and your circumstances and you should be proud of yourself. I am proud of you and I don’t even know you. To bulldog123—you are so right, if only there was some way to make sure the money actually goes to the support of the child (and not for the custodial parent and new ‘friend’ to go out and party while the child is with the non-custodial parent on the weekend). To eandrpowers—sounds like you have been caught in the middle of such a situation and have come out a pretty decent and caring person. I have a wonderful marriage with a man who was and is a wonderful father as well as husband. When my brother’s wife left and took his children, out of the blue, cleaning out their checkings account to pay for her lawyer, he was devastated. The ex didn’t ask for alimony, which surprised me, but he was tapped big time for child support. Not only did he pay child support but when he had the children and they had no coats or clothes, (where did the support go???), he took them out and bought them coats and clothes and anything else they needed as much as he could. And it wasn’t deducted from what he was paying, he didn’t ask for it to be. Nor could he have had that done were he to have tried. The ex shacked up with her new ‘friend’ and they used the money to buy a fine new home, good for the children, and his children and grandchildren. When his wages were cut where he works, has always worked, he did not go to court to ask for a reduction, he should have, but the children were so important to him that he didn’t. He wants to be near his children and has. When the oldest became of age, she moved out immediately and told her mother why. Some children resent being used as a pawn for their mother to bleed their father dry, and vice-versa. These children saw how much their father loves them and spent his extra money on them instead of himself, what little there was. I am proud of him. You never seem to hear about these fathers who go out of their way to make sure their children have what they need and as much of what they want as he can give them. My other sibling married a person with a child and the child lives with them, yet they keep paying the ex the child support so the ex won’t take the child from them, they want the child in their home with them where he is safe and happier. The system is faulty. Custodial parents should be made to show what the money is spent on. The money should go for housing, clothing, school, etc. and not partying or the support of others now living in the home, the new ‘friend’ and their families. What a cash cow my siblings have been. You might think they are wimpy, but their love for the children is more important than how anyone might think of them. How can this possibly be right or good for the children? For all of you out there who don’t recieve the child support you should, I wish something could be done. No child should have to suffer, have less of a life because of a dead beat ex that won’t pay when this should be shared. No child should be a pawn in a power play or money scheme of the custodial parent either. If the custodial parent has more income than the non-custodial, why is this not taken into account? Such a mess.

Flag Comment Posted by evaningstar on November 17, 2008 at 10:46 am

nanaof150, As we have stated several times. If government assistance is being received they do go after the absent parent. He has to pay them back as well. If your daughter ceases to get government assistance and the state gets their money back the well of help will run dry.

Flag Comment Posted by nanaof150 on November 17, 2008 at 10:40 am

It surprises me that some of you are having problems with getting support orders enforced between TN and VA. My daughter’s ex-boyfriend, who fathered my granddaughter, lives in VA. We all live in TN. My daughter gets Families First, and did not have any problems getting support ordered or enforced. He has to pay and it’s taken out of his checks each month by court order. He can’t just decide he doesn’t want to pay it, because the state takes it each month and doesn’t give him a choice. That’s what needs to be done by the judges. I know you’ve then got to find the deadbeats. In this case, he had moved a couple of times but my daughter gave the court his mom’s address and that’s where he was found one day and served with the papers. Yes, the states do work together, so I just don’t understand this.

Flag Comment Posted by luvmypup on November 17, 2008 at 10:18 am

Sure did not see my sorry x’s name on this list.  He owes over $50,000.00 for his son.  Social services is a JOKE!  I have tried for years to get them to enforce the Court’s Order. I am proud to have been a single mom and raised a wonderful child without help and support.  It has made both of us stronger and wiser.

Flag Comment Posted by msrose49 on November 17, 2008 at 9:40 am

MntRaven…Apology accepted and I do realize that there are pitiful stories on BOTH sides…..the system is broken in as far as many still doing without on both sides and especially the children! Bulldog…no it is NOT a pension plan but is it only fair that, if a parent raised the child alone for 18 years without any help at all,then that custodial parent should still be able to recoup the amount (I would be happy with HALF) that they had to work so hard for and do without for themselves just to raise the child that BOTH concieved together. If I could even hope to get HALF 95% would be spent on my now grown child and her children…..because I would feel guilty spending it on myself only.
Another note that is on the upside here…another grown child I have has a baby. The father provides all of his diapers/wipes, baby food, milk and clothing. All are in agreement on this and it works fine. The father knows where his $$ go and the mother has no problems with it. He supports his child which is far more than most others do. Even this would be a help to most….and they could keep the reciepts to proove this much support. I think any fair judge would accept this.

Flag Comment Posted by evaningstar on November 17, 2008 at 9:23 am

briggman. Well, I wish it were that simple. The parent lives in Virginia, we live in TN, the order was placed in TN. I myself have contacted the courts many many times to give them his address and his employers name. The last time I contacted the Blountville Child Support Enforcement Agency several months ago they told me that the case had been closed because they could not find him. At that time I told her that I had contacted them almost yearly to give them his address and employers name. She said I would have to complete a packet of papers to get the case re-opened. I requested those papers four times and have yet to get them. I drove to the Blountville office my lunch break and was told they had to be mailed, I AGAIN asked for those papers and have yet to receive them. No, it isn’t because I have not tried to have them enforced. The fact that he lives in VA and I live in TN is part of the problem. The two states do not work together on things like this. I even contaced VA to see if I could file there and was told no because the child lives in TN.  And just as another person wrote. If I was on assistance they would be all over him. That is the only reason the original order happened to begin with. I received assistance for awhile when my son was first born so I could work part-time til he was a year old. They went after him then but since I dropped the assistance they haven’t lifted a finger. I am done at this point and will no longer seek the money that is owed to my child. We live quite comfortably and hope I never have to eat macaroni again. But I am a strong believer in fate and things do come back to you. I leave it to the powers that be.

Flag Comment Posted by MtnRaven on November 17, 2008 at 9:11 am

I certainly did not mean to sound rude, I am just PO’d. And yes, in the last year and a half I HAVE had to do without, and eat macaroni myself. So I have every right to be mad at the system. I should not have accused others though, so for that I apologize. You are right, there are to sides to every story and until you have been in our shoes you will never understand. And the comment about going to see his child anyway. We had no idea where he lived when they moved and DCS said it was against the Mother’s constitutional rights to give out her address to him…the child’s FATHER! So, I have many reasons to believe that the system is broken.

Flag Comment Posted by briggman@gmail. on November 17, 2008 at 9:06 am

“evaningstar” if you had an order entered 16 years ago, and it hasn’t been enforced, it’s because you have asked it to be enforced.

There is no statute of limitations on the collection of child support either, so in theory, you could walk right back into the court that entered the order and have your ex brought right back in to court to explain why they haven’t complied with the order.

Flag Comment Posted by evaningstar on November 17, 2008 at 8:59 am

mtnraven. Your husband can and should request a hearing for a child support adjustment. They cannot deny him that. As you said, the payments are based ona percentage of his income, if his income has went down as will his support payments. He should still go see his child though. The child may say on the phone he doesnt’ want to see him but you still make that effort. You try to overturn the bitterness that the mother has tried to create. If he allows it to continue the child will think he did not care enough to fight for him.
And your comment about pitiful me stories was pretty rude. Not everyone that receives or would like to receive child support are pitiful me’s. I posted a comment here telling my situation, my child is almost 17 yrs old and I have never received a dime. I don’t feel sorry for me, but it does anger me that the order that was put in place 16 years ago was not enforced. We did without alot of things we shouldn’t have had to do without. Have you ever eaten macaroni for weeks at a time because that was all you had or could afford? All the while your childs father is making twenty some dollars an hour, driving a new car, partying all the time and just can’t seem to find that hundred dollars the court asked him to give to help support his child. I rose above and have been thankful that he left our life and has not been the negative influence that he could have been. But it sure would have been nice to have grocery money every week.
I understand you are on the other side of the fence but you shouldn’t cast stones at those that are on this side. There are players everywhere, on your side and mine.

Flag Comment Posted by MtnRaven on November 17, 2008 at 8:46 am

My husband had to change jobs due to an illness last year. He immediatley went to DCS in Abingdon and reported his new job and new income. He is grossing about half of what he did at his old job. DCS workers informed him that because HE changed jobs they did not recognize the loss if income, so he still has to pay almost $600 a month for ONE child!!! And he has not laid eyes on this child in almost 9 years because the child’s mother moved to another state with her new husband and my step-son was brainwashed into telling his father he did not want to see him anymore. Some of these poor, pitiful me stories make me SICK because I know what I have seen my husband suffer through. And DCS is ROBBING my husband of money! There was no court order for his child support because my husband is not a dead beat, he gives us of his own valition, and because of this a certain percentage of his pay is taken from him by DCS for this. I never begrudged a dime for my step-son and still don’t, but DCS are criminals, and THEY should be thrown in jail as well for robbing my husband of more money than he should be required to pay.

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